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		<title>By: Eric E. Coe</title>
		<link>http://www.kevinholtsberry.com/kh/2002/08/07/am-i-a-chickenblogger/comment-page-1/#comment-2338</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric E. Coe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Aug 2002 05:20:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please go &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.reportweb.com/?id=1028767086&amp;rm=archive&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; to see my point-by-point reply to Hesiod&#039;s original arguments.

I see he now has changed his prescription to an ultimatum.  The unlikely-to-be-fuffilled ultimatum is a traditional way to begin a war.  So I am somewhat OK with that, if the President decides to go that way, though it would be better millitarily to go with a suprise attack..  The only caveat I would have for an ultimatum is that it have a firm deadline.  We should count on Saddam refusing by trying to delay things.  We would stick to the deadline - and soon after it passes, let him have it.

But he he burbles on about &quot;getting Saddam to play ball&quot; - nonsense.  Never happen.  At best (or worse, take your pick) he will just stall us and try to make inadequate counteroffers. He also will try (in fact is already trying) to drag in third parties, like the other Arab states or maybe the Europeans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please go <a href="http://www.reportweb.com/?id=1028767086&#038;rm=archive" rel="nofollow">here</a> to see my point-by-point reply to Hesiod&#8217;s original arguments.</p>
<p>I see he now has changed his prescription to an ultimatum.  The unlikely-to-be-fuffilled ultimatum is a traditional way to begin a war.  So I am somewhat OK with that, if the President decides to go that way, though it would be better millitarily to go with a suprise attack..  The only caveat I would have for an ultimatum is that it have a firm deadline.  We should count on Saddam refusing by trying to delay things.  We would stick to the deadline &#8211; and soon after it passes, let him have it.</p>
<p>But he he burbles on about &#8220;getting Saddam to play ball&#8221; &#8211; nonsense.  Never happen.  At best (or worse, take your pick) he will just stall us and try to make inadequate counteroffers. He also will try (in fact is already trying) to drag in third parties, like the other Arab states or maybe the Europeans.</p>
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		<title>By: scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Aug 2002 04:15:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hesiod, that&#039;s how the &quot;klutzes&quot; in the Bush administration are going to start the war in Iraq.  Except they&#039;re just going to use the first step.  Saddam won&#039;t accept the first step, much less all of your 5. Your plan wouldn&#039;t prevent an invasion, it would cause it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hesiod, that&#8217;s how the &#8220;klutzes&#8221; in the Bush administration are going to start the war in Iraq.  Except they&#8217;re just going to use the first step.  Saddam won&#8217;t accept the first step, much less all of your 5. Your plan wouldn&#8217;t prevent an invasion, it would cause it.</p>
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		<title>By: Bobby A-G</title>
		<link>http://www.kevinholtsberry.com/kh/2002/08/07/am-i-a-chickenblogger/comment-page-1/#comment-2336</link>
		<dc:creator>Bobby A-G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Aug 2002 21:16:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just read Hesiod&#039;s original comments...what a TROLL!

I can&#039;t believe you&#039;re giving this guy the time of day, Kevin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just read Hesiod&#8217;s original comments&#8230;what a TROLL!</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t believe you&#8217;re giving this guy the time of day, Kevin.</p>
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		<title>By: Hesiod</title>
		<link>http://www.kevinholtsberry.com/kh/2002/08/07/am-i-a-chickenblogger/comment-page-1/#comment-2335</link>
		<dc:creator>Hesiod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Aug 2002 19:44:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;[W]hy bother with the treaty?&quot;

1) It&#039;s not a &quot;treaty.&quot; It&#039;s an ultimatum.

2) It forces Saddam into a box. Either he accepts our terms [which cannot be legitimately objected to by anyone in the international community, even other Arab states, or he&#039;s toast.

If he accepts the terms, and lives up to them, we win.

If he accpets the ternms, and renigs, we have a justification for military action, and we &quot;win.&quot;

If he rejects the terms, we have a justification for military action, and we &quot;win.&quot;

Simple really.

Of corse the klutzes running the Bush Iraq policy will never grasp this concept.

--Hesiod</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;[W]hy bother with the treaty?&#8221;</p>
<p>1) It&#8217;s not a &#8220;treaty.&#8221; It&#8217;s an ultimatum.</p>
<p>2) It forces Saddam into a box. Either he accepts our terms [which cannot be legitimately objected to by anyone in the international community, even other Arab states, or he&#8217;s toast.</p>
<p>If he accepts the terms, and lives up to them, we win.</p>
<p>If he accpets the ternms, and renigs, we have a justification for military action, and we &#8220;win.&#8221;</p>
<p>If he rejects the terms, we have a justification for military action, and we &#8220;win.&#8221;</p>
<p>Simple really.</p>
<p>Of corse the klutzes running the Bush Iraq policy will never grasp this concept.</p>
<p>&#8211;Hesiod</p>
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		<title>By: es</title>
		<link>http://www.kevinholtsberry.com/kh/2002/08/07/am-i-a-chickenblogger/comment-page-1/#comment-2334</link>
		<dc:creator>es</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Aug 2002 19:42:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you gotta work on that ht = th thing;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you gotta work on that ht = th thing;)</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Byron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Byron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Aug 2002 19:34:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1: Could Saddam accept the Counterspin Treaty and be politically viable?

2: Would he live up to it if he signed it?

The answer to the first is &quot;not likely&quot; and the answer to the second is &quot;probably not.&quot;

Thus, why bother with the treaty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1: Could Saddam accept the Counterspin Treaty and be politically viable?</p>
<p>2: Would he live up to it if he signed it?</p>
<p>The answer to the first is &#8220;not likely&#8221; and the answer to the second is &#8220;probably not.&#8221;</p>
<p>Thus, why bother with the treaty.</p>
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		<title>By: Hesiod</title>
		<link>http://www.kevinholtsberry.com/kh/2002/08/07/am-i-a-chickenblogger/comment-page-1/#comment-2332</link>
		<dc:creator>Hesiod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Aug 2002 18:57:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See my response:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://counterspin.blogspot.com/2002_08_04_counterspin_archive.html#79947251&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://counterspin.blogspot.com/2002_08_04_counterspin_archive.html#79947251&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://counterspin.blogspot.com/2002_08_04_counterspin_archive.html#79947251&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

--Hesiod</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See my response:</p>
<p><a href="http://counterspin.blogspot.com/2002_08_04_counterspin_archive.html#79947251" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://counterspin.blogspot.com/2002_08_04_counterspin_archive.html#79947251" rel="nofollow">http://counterspin.blogspot.com/2002_08_04_counterspin_archive.html#79947251</a></p>
<p>&#8211;Hesiod</p>
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